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Summing Up Two And Three-Pointers

I referred to each session last week as a “2-pointer”.

In a 2-point session, the ranking points are as follows:

  • 1 point for a loss (effectively, a participation point)
  • 1.5 points for a draw (1.5 times a participation point)
  • 2 points for a win (2 times a participation point, or 1.33 times that for a draw)

The alternative is a 3-point session, for which the ranking points are as follows:

  • 1 point for a loss (effectively a participation point)
  • 2 points for a draw (2 times a participation point)
  • 3 points for a win (3 times a participation point, or 1.5 times that for a draw)

There is less of a difference between a win, draw or loss in a 2-pointer than there is in a 3-pointer.

In a 4-team min-tournament, the ranking points will be as follows:

  • 1 point for the team finishing fourth
  • 1.67 points for the team finishing third
  • 2.33 points for the team finishing second
  • 3 points for the team finishing first

Each session in the regular weekly schedule will be a 3-pointer unless it falls within one of the following categories, in which case, it will be a 2-pointer:

  • It is designated as a different kind of session, such as a mixed session, two-touch session, or a less demanding session.   A session will only be designated as such if it is the second session for that night, and their are enough female players for a mixed session, or enough participants for a two-touch session or a less demanding session.
  • Of those who confirm for a session:
    • One or more is relatively new, not having previously played at least 5 sessions.
    • One or more has not played a FIOFAFI session in the preceding two weeks.
    • Half are above 40 and three-quarters are above our median age – an “old boys” session if you like.
  • The line ups are not determined before the session starts based on a generally accepted method.  Currently, seedings based on the rankings, and any two regulars taking turns to select their respective teams, are accepted methods.

A 3-pointer represents a more competitive session, as everyone playing would have been playing regularly.  By the same token, where any player is relatively new, or is returning after a break of a fortnight or more, the session is a less competitive 2-pointer.

The difference is largely psychological, but competitiveness is largely psychological in any event.  🙂

I expect that there will be more 2-pointers than 3-pointers, as it is not uncommon for participants not to play for periods of two weeks or more. In fact, as this classification was only introduced at the start of this quarter, and as we have not had a 3-pointer since then, the next one will be the first.

In order to encourage player swaps when line ups or sessions are unbalanced or one-sided:

  • In a 2-pointer:
    • If the swap takes place in the first half of the session, the player who swaps to the winning side will get 2-points, while the player who swaps to the losing side will get 1.5 points.  If it’s a draw, both will get 1.5 points as usual.
    • If the swap takes place in the second half of the session, both players will get 1.5 points, except that if the side that was trailing closes the gap after the swap, the player that swapped to the trailing side will get 2 points regardless of the final result.
  • In a 3-pointer:
    • If the swap takes place in the first half of the session, the player who swaps to the winning side will get 3 points, while the player who swaps to the losing side will get 2 points.  If it’s a draw, both will get 2 points as usual.
    • If the swap takes place in the second half of the session, both players will get 2 points, except that if the side that was trailing closes the gap after the swap, the player that swapped to the trailing side will get 3 points regardless of the final result.

If during a 3-pointer, there is more than one player swap, or the line ups are re-done, the session becomes a 2-pointer.  A swap by a “free swap” player before the session starts doesn’t count.    This makes swapping a bit more tactical in a 3-pointer.

Similarly, if during a 3-point session, a significant part of the game is played with uneven numbers or with a substitute being found for a player who cannot continue, it will become a 2-pointer.

Of course, whether points are awarded as above will depend on the relevant details being reported.

In a game between a FIOFAFI team and another team, such as our 11-a-side games so far, our 5-a-side game against The Cage management last December, and the 7-a-side game against Dennis’s team at the end of last month, the FIOFAFI team will be awarded ranking points as in a 2-point session – 2 points for a win, 1.5 points for a draw and 1 point for a loss.  Any of our opponents who is already on the Participant List, or who asks to be added to the Participant List after the session, will also be awarded ranking points as in a 2-point session.

In the end, no one need concern themselves too much with any of this.  It’s all for fun, and to encourage participation, and doesn’t make much difference.

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  1. rajiv
    Sun 19 April 2009 at 10:50 pm

    A less demanding session (or “easy” session) is not the same thing as an “old boys” session.

    An “easy” session for those who haven’t played for a while and are lacking in fitness, or are coming back from injury, or are looking for a less physical or competitive game will only take place if it is the second session on the same night. It is a 2-pointer in any event.

    An “old boys” session depends on the ages of those who confirm for the session, and arises ad hoc. It is currently designated as a 2-pointer too. We’ll see how it goes.

  2. rajiv
    Sun 31 May 2009 at 8:29 am

    For a mini knock-out tournament (as we had early this morning), each team plays 2 games, a semifinal and either a final or a third/fourth placing game. Each game is treated as a half-session, so the team that wins both games (the winners) gets 2 points, the two teams that win one and lose one (teams finishing second and third) get 1.5 points and the team that loses both (finishing fourth) get 1 point.

  3. rajiv
    Sun 28 June 2009 at 10:40 am

    In response to the issues raised here and on previous occasions, where the winning margin is one goal, the losing side will still get a draw bonus.

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