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4 v 4 At The Cage

Wed 11 February 2009 Leave a comment Go to comments

I aim to have 10 for each session, so that we can play 5 v 5.

If we have 7 or 8 by the day before the session, I’ll go ahead with the session, in the expectation that a few more will confirm on the day of the session itself.

If we are still one or two players short by the afternoon of the session, I’ll send out an SMS (or e-mail) to those I think might play that session, including those who:

  • used to be regular but haven’t played for a while.
  • usually only confirm on the day of the session itself.
  • often play at that venue or on that day of the week.

If despite my best efforts, we can only get to 9, we can ask for a member of The Cage staff to play, making 10.   So far, we’ve had to do that only once, due to a player not showing up.

We have been able to pick up an extra player at The Cage, Sports Planet and FICO on the other 5 or 6 occasions since the middle of last year when we have been a player short.

The advantage at The Cage is that I have an understanding with them that one of their staff can join us to make 10.

However, if we only have 8 players, I think we should go ahead 4 v 4, especially if the session is at The Cage.

I have obtained the dimensions of the pitches at The Cage and Sports Planet, which are as follows:

  • The Cage – 25m x 15m
  • Sports Planet – 27m x 16m

I believe the pitches at Turf City are slightly larger than those at Sports Planet, while those at FICO are slightly larger than those at Turf City.

As the pitches at The Cage are the smallest on which we play, we should be able to manage 4 v 4, with modified rules – both sides can only score from within the D, and no goalkeepers.  If we need to pace the game better with 4 v 4, we can also play to the side lines, and even have a short half-time break.

5 v 4 is harder at The Cage, because having the side with 5 only able to score from within the D is probably too much of a handicap, as shooting opportunities virtually disappear for the side with 5, with the D as small as it is at The Cage.

Last night, we switched to having the side with 5 not being allowed to score only from beyond the penalty spot, which allowed more shooting opportunities, but makes it hard to tell whether the goal should stand.   I suppose one way to deal with that is to allow the goal unless it is clearly beyond the penalty spot, which would then make it a viable alternative to scoring within the D only.

Anyway, 5 v 4 shouldn’t usually be an issue at The Cage, as we can always pick up an extra player, if necessary, from the staff.

Similar considerations apply to 5 v 4 or 4 v 4 at Sports Planet, Turf City and FICO, but the larger the pitch, the more demanding 5 v 4 or 4 v 4 is (at least for the side(s) with 4).  Further, as the Ds are bigger at these other venues, restricting scoring for the side with 5 to within the D isn’t as big a handicap as it is at The Cage, so 5 v 4 maybe more workable at those venues.

Tactics need to change when one or both sides have only 4 players – more emphasis has to be placed by the side(s) with 4 on defending around the D (or in line with the penalty spot, as the case may be), and ensuring there is always a player at the back even when attacking, which requires a lot more communication.    If the player at the back brings the ball forward, someone else has to drop back to cover.

The biggest concern is that if we go ahead with 4 v 4, some of those already confirmed, but who are not keen on 4 v 4, will pull out on the day itself, thus forcing a late cancellation of the session.

To canvass views, in addition to any comments you may have, please vote in the poll below.

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  1. rajiv
    Wed 11 February 2009 at 11:59 am

    Anyone voting for withdrawal, let me know who you are, and I’ll try to make sure that if we have a 4 v 4 session tonight, you’re in the other 5 v 5 game.

  2. Gilbert
    Wed 11 February 2009 at 12:03 pm

    I prefer a 5 v5 game, thanks.

  3. Wed 11 February 2009 at 12:16 pm

    I prefer a 5 v5 game

  4. Bobby
    Wed 11 February 2009 at 12:52 pm

    I’d rather the 5v5 game too.

  5. Bobby
    Wed 11 February 2009 at 1:03 pm

    In general, I’d settle for 4v4 rather than go without, but I really dislike the “score within the D” mod.
    With the defense’s best strategy being to crowd the D, the game gets too constricted especially with the tiny D at the Cage.

    I’ve played 4v4 games at the Cage with normal rules except that we played to the side lines to slow things down and only allowed goals to be scored above the half-way line. This allows the keeper to push out a little more and play the role of sweeper when his team is on the attack. I personally found this arrangement more to my liking.

  6. rajseran
    Wed 11 February 2009 at 1:04 pm

    I prefer Threesome sometimes but otherwise 5 vs 5 .

    4 vs 4 , i think it will take at least 30 mins before one player faints . I still miss the Bukit Timah venue where we could go up to 7 vs 7 . Hope they are all ready by next week.

  7. Boris
    Wed 11 February 2009 at 1:22 pm

    I second bobby’s notion.

  8. rajiv
    Wed 11 February 2009 at 1:43 pm

    That’s fine Bobby. Those who played last night tried limiting scoring for the side with 5 to within about one third of the pitch (the penalty spot), so it could either be that or the halfway line.

    I’ll leave it to those playing in any 4 v 4 session to decide.

  9. rajiv
    Thu 12 February 2009 at 8:11 am

    I guess if the players in the 4 v 4 session are fit and/or tactically-minded enough, they can play with goalkeepers and with scoring from anywhere, as they did in last night’s 4 v 4 game.

    Anyway, in 4 v 4 games, it’s up to those who play to decide:

    • whether to play with keepers.
    • whether scoring can be from anywhere, or from the portion of the pitch in front of the opposing goal, and if so, what portion (the D – other than The Cage where the D is too small, one-third, one-half).

  10. rajiv
    Wed 25 February 2009 at 8:34 am

    We played 4 v 4 last night at The Cage with goalkeepers, to the side lines, and scoring restricted to within the opposing half.

    It worked very well.

    • rajiv
      Thu 12 March 2009 at 8:00 am

      In the second mini-league tournament, each game was 4 v 4, with goalkeepers and scoring unrestricted. The only rule change was playing to the sidelines.

  11. rajiv
    Thu 26 March 2009 at 8:43 am

    Poll results:

    • 8 votes (67%) for continuing with a 4 v 4 at The Cage with suitably modified rules.

    • 4 votes (33%) for withdrawing from the session rather than continuing with a 4 v 4 at The Cage.

    If we only have 8 players, we’ll continue with a 4 v 4, unless there are further withdrawals, in which case, we wouldn’t have enough even for a 4 v 4.

    If any of the 8 are relatively new, I’ll keep open the option of cancelling the session.

  1. Wed 11 February 2009 at 10:00 am
  2. Thu 12 February 2009 at 12:34 am
  3. Wed 25 February 2009 at 8:47 am
  4. Wed 25 February 2009 at 1:07 pm
  5. Sun 1 March 2009 at 12:16 pm
  6. Sun 1 March 2009 at 2:26 pm
  7. Wed 11 March 2009 at 5:27 pm
  8. Thu 12 March 2009 at 7:51 am
  9. Fri 3 April 2009 at 8:41 am
  10. Sat 4 April 2009 at 10:38 am

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