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There have been several calls for FIOFAFI T-shirts, most recently by Shankar, Sam and Dirk.

To keep it simple, I’ll start with a FIOFAFI design in black on a red or white T-shirt.

At least there won’t be any more excuses for not having a white or red T-shirt.

I’ve gotten a few quotes. The best price for one T-shirt is S$10 + cost for each design/number of T-shirts ordered +$0.40 per colour + GST.

The cost for each design is S$40, so if we get a minimum of 10 orders, the price of each T-shirt should not exceed S$15. Of course, the more orders we get, the cheaper it gets, down towards S$10.

Just to be clear, you’ll be getting the T-shirts at cost – I’m not looking to make anything from this.

I’m proposing one of the two simple designs a simple design along the lines shown below (click on the thumbnails for a larger view):

Design A

Design B

There are currently four options for the wording, taking into account the suggestions in the comments below. Vote for your preference below. I’ll go with the one which has more votes by the end of Friday, 12 December 2008.

As for the web address, there are also 3 options:

Voting closes end of Friday, 12 December 2008.

If you wish to propose anything significantly different from the above design, send me an image file, and I’ll have a run-off of all images received against the winner of the above poll.

There’s more real democracy and transparency on this blog than most of us will experience in our lifetimes.

[Amended as shown deleted and underlined, 9.29 pm.]

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  1. Tom
    Sun 7 December 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Excellent, Jiv!

    The designs look the same to me, so I take it this is a vote for the “tag line”? Can we suggest others?

    “FIOFAFI: football … old school”
    “FIOFAFI: football for the aged”
    “FIOFAFI: cure your mid-life crisis”

    Anyone else have suggestions?

    PS drop the “http://www.” and that extra “/” at the end to create more real estate space.

  2. rajiv
    Sun 7 December 2008 at 12:50 pm

    FIOFAFI: cure your mid-life crisis

    When does mid-life begin? Our median age is currently 35!

  3. Sun 7 December 2008 at 1:18 pm

    well, …

    re. “median age is 35”: a literal mid-life is only known / knowable after we our lives are completed, so it obviously has a less literal emphasis.

    well, …

    “Football Into Our Forties & Fifties, Indefatigably”

  4. rajesh
    Sun 7 December 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Have you Fiofafied TODAY sounds like If you had Sex today ……

    What About……. Do You Fiofafi ?

    and for the website , Fiofafi.com will do

    SO there could be just another Suggestion

    This will be simple and sweet

    FIOFAFI.COM

  5. rajiv
    Sun 7 December 2008 at 8:50 pm

    FIOFAFI: football for the aged

    There’s always active ageing instead.

    Have you Fiofafied TODAY sounds like If you had Sex today ……

    What’s wrong with that?

  6. Raj
    Sun 7 December 2008 at 8:55 pm

    How about Just FIOFAFI

  7. rajiv
    Sun 7 December 2008 at 8:59 pm

    How about Just FIOFAFI

    I thought about that as one of the options, but was wondering if it was too Nike-esque.

    I’ll add it as one of the options.

  8. Edardy
    Sun 7 December 2008 at 11:54 pm

    as for colours.. I think White on red is better than black on red. So i think, White on red, White on Black.. And Black on white. More contrast. And Rajiv, if you are going to print about 40 pieces and its only one colour, try the silk-screen option. It can be cheaper and definitely will last longer than those iron-on stickers which will cost you 10bucks no matter the quantity. And with silk screening, you only get the template once and the next bulk you print can only be cheaper.

    As for the copy, I think the name and website should appear as one. Fiofafi.com. It acts as a site driver. No need for extra lines such as please visit blah blah blah. More concise. And we need to educate people on what FIOFAFI is about anyway, so the site is important. So the most concise way is to have a site driver as a name. Fiofafi.com. No need for http://www.fio…. too long and doesn’t look sophisticated. people are techno savvy enough to understand fiofafi.com.

    as for copy suggestions….

    1. Be A Playa. fiofafi.com (strong ‘call to action’.)
    2. Never too Old To Score. fiofafi.com
    3. Aim. Shoot. Dribble. Don’t forget to flush. Fiofafi.com (my personal favourite! HAHAH I would wear this one to zoukOut!)

  9. Mon 8 December 2008 at 12:27 am

    “never too old to score.
    fiofafi.com”

    GENIUS! Nice one, Edardy.

  10. Sam
    Mon 8 December 2008 at 1:00 am

    Since we’r going to have 2 different colours, why not the following ;

    For white :Never too Old To Score.fiofafi.com”

    For red :FIOFAFI: cure your mid-life crisis
    (I definitely qualify for this….)

  11. rajiv
    Mon 8 December 2008 at 8:34 am

    … try the silk-screen option.

    Yup, the T-shirts will be screen printed.

    I think White on red is better than black on red.

    Ok, white on red and black and black on white then. We should be able to do that with one screen. So no more excuses for not having a black T-shirt either.

    “never too old to score.
    fiofafi.com”

    GENIUS! Nice one, Edardy.

    and

    For red :FIOFAFI: cure your mid-life crisis
    (I definitely qualify for this….)

    Ok, I’ll add both options to the poll. I’ve re-set the votes to 0, so those of you who already voted, please vote again.

    If we go with 2 sets of wording, we’ll need at least 10 orders for each, as we’ll need two separate screens.

  12. Raj
    Mon 8 December 2008 at 1:00 pm

    If I’m not mistaken, you can customize t-shirts at Nike.com too. Price could be high but at least it has the latest sweat technology.

  13. rajiv
    Mon 8 December 2008 at 5:34 pm

    I’m trying to keep the first round of T-shirts as cheap as possible.

    I suppose once the design is finalized, anyone could go to Nike.com and have it printed on a T-shirt with the latest sweat technology? I’d be fine with that.

  14. rajseran
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 8:46 am

    Hi Rajiv

    If Do you Fiofafi and Fiofafi.com will to have the highest vote , i suggest we can summarize this and save the cost on the letterings by just having it

    Do You Fiofafi.com ? Message is clear enough . And the lesser words we have them on the Shirt , the nicer it will look and we might even have the freedom of having them in bigger words. Just a suggestion .

  15. rajiv
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 10:01 am

    save the cost on the letterings ….

    As it’s screen printing, there’s no addition cost in more lettering, but I suppose your main concern is “FIOFAFI” being repeated.

    I’ll put up a final version once the wording is settled.

  16. Andy M
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 10:06 am

    Jiv will these be breathable T-shirts as in Nike Dri-fit or equivalent or just normal cotton T-shirt? The cotton ones may be uncomfortable for running around for an hour

  17. rajiv
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 10:15 am

    The cotton ones may be uncomfortable for running around for an hour

    It’s cotton.

    You can continue to wear your usual red, white or black jerseys to play – the FIOFAFI T-shirt is not meant to be compulsory. It’s meant more for casual use, but if you don’t have the right colour for any particular session, you can use a FIOFAFI T-shirt – they’ll be cheap.

    If you’d like to get a Nike Dri-fit, and would still like the FIOFAFI design on it, Raj says that you can get them custom made at Nike.com (see comments 12 and 13 above).

  18. Bret
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 11:01 am

    FIOFAFI till I die.

    Can we have names on the back of the t shirts?

  19. nethercleft
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 11:16 am

    We print loads of t-shirts at my work and we have recently done some in dry-fit material. I can get some costs for you if you want to compare. Happy to set up the artwork as well if you need it.

    Andy N

  20. rajiv
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 11:20 am

    Sure Andy, let me know.

  21. Franco
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 11:31 am

    Andy N sound good..:-)

  22. melvin
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 1:03 pm

    A dri-fit top reversible in 2 colors (with slogan on one side) may be the best option. No need to pre-determine line-ups and colors ever again…you can even swop teams midway without confusion…

  23. rajiv
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 2:33 pm

    If it’s reversible, we could stick with black and red.

  24. rajiv
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Bret Says:
    Tue 9 December 2008 at 11:01 am

    FIOFAFI till I die.

    Can we have names on the back of the t shirts?

    Sorry Bret, your comment got held in the spam filter until I approved it a short while ago.

    “FIOFAFI Till I Die” is fairly close to “FIOFAFI Till You Drop”, which isn’t garnering too many votes … so I’ve replaced the latter with the former in the poll.

  25. rajseran
    Wed 10 December 2008 at 11:19 am

    I guess Murray might Suggest

    FIOFAFI.COM NOT FOR BIRDS 🙂

  26. rajiv
    Fri 12 December 2008 at 10:23 am

    The poll closes at the end of today. Edardy’s slogan is well in the lead.

    Andy N, any further information? How about reversible T-shirts?

  27. Boris
    Fri 12 December 2008 at 10:37 am

    The never too old to score one is good haha.

  28. Franco
    Fri 12 December 2008 at 11:24 am

    but I suggest FIOFAFI (capital letters).com

  29. rajiv
    Sun 14 December 2008 at 9:20 am

    “Never Too Old To Score” with 48% of the vote, takes it from “Do You FIOFAFI?”, with 33%.

    FIOFAFI.com. is the preferred option for the web address.

    Andy N, and word on reversible dry-fit T-shirts?

  30. rajiv
    Mon 15 December 2008 at 4:44 pm

    A late voter pushed “Never Too Old To Score” up to 50%, and “Do You FIOFAFI?” down to 32%.

  31. Franco
    Mon 15 December 2008 at 6:18 pm

    I m sure we can even design and promote shirts in different designs.

  32. Boris
    Tue 16 December 2008 at 9:49 am

    This is a T-shirt right? Not a jersey?

  33. rajiv
    Tue 16 December 2008 at 12:28 pm

    One step at a time Franco, but we’ll get there.

    Boris, I started with T-shirts in mind, but the idea has evolved a bit since then.

    The latest proposal is reversible, dry-fit T-shirts.

  34. Boris
    Tue 16 December 2008 at 1:39 pm

    I see.. Reversible might cost quite a bit though right?

  35. Mike A
    Tue 16 December 2008 at 1:52 pm

    Sounds good, but do you think they make a XXXXL dri-fit shirts? 😎

  36. Franco
    Tue 16 December 2008 at 2:01 pm

    you mean you nead a FIOFAFI tent..:-)…????

  37. Mike A
    Tue 16 December 2008 at 2:56 pm

    I would rather wear a tent then look like this…

  38. Franco
    Tue 16 December 2008 at 3:49 pm

    ooohhhh…..;-)…don’t worry this is difinately not you…compare to him, I would say you are more like Arnie (Schwarzenegger)…is he carring the ball under his white shirt…:-)???

  39. rajiv
    Wed 17 December 2008 at 9:59 am

    Another late voter pushed “Never Too Old To Score” up to 52%, and “Do You FIOFAFI?” down to 30%.

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  2. Tue 23 December 2008 at 3:03 pm

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